American excepionalism? 

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 02/13/2016 at 19:17 • Filed to: None

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Not so much. Good thing we can still do brain drain.

Yes, that map shows the quality of education in each state, when you compare it to the rest of the world. It was created using the U.S. Census and each state’s high school graduation rate, compared to the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! of each country in the world, according to the United Nations Development Programme.

TheHondaBro > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:19

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Hong Kong isn’t a country though.

For Sweden > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:20

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Is this for primary education? Secondary education? Higher education?

Also Vermont? VERMONT!?

scoob > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:20

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Iowa? China? Really?

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:21

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Jersey is now Canada! Where’s my maple syrup and health care

MultiplaOrgasms > TheHondaBro 02/13/2016 at 19:22

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Mostly autonomous from China.

MultiplaOrgasms > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:23

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Northeast doesn’t seem that bad.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > For Sweden 02/13/2016 at 19:24

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Swedish, now with extra syrup

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:25

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Alabama 125th.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:26

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High school graduation rate does not equal quality of education.

itranthelasttimeiparkedit > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:26

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haha I saw turkey and chile and thought this was a food post

For Sweden > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 02/13/2016 at 19:27

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fite me irl you separatist vermonter freaks

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > For Sweden 02/13/2016 at 19:27

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Primary and secondary, that’s free in most parts of the world.

Higher education has varying costs in different parts of the world. And American universities attract many foreign students Adding higher ed. up wouldn’t be exactly relevant.

For Sweden > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 02/13/2016 at 19:27

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If you walk around outside you’d know the beach is already Quebec

For Sweden > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:28

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What is the measure used? Reading level? Test scores?

Urambo Tauro > TheHondaBro 02/13/2016 at 19:29

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Neither is Washington...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:29

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Nevada is Ghana?? At least I can ask my mom if she’s been to Area 51! :p

But Thailand.....hmm

deprecated account > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:32

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Yeah! Guyana!

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > For Sweden 02/13/2016 at 19:36

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Well, on global level, high school is still secondary level. With college counting as higher education. The same measuring stick had to be applied to America too.

For Sweden > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:36

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That doesn’t answer my question

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > For Sweden 02/13/2016 at 19:38

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Mainly HS graduation rate.

For Sweden > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:39

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Not controlling for high school curriculum?

Blondude > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:45

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What the fuck Connecticut

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:45

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So... Connecticut (d’oh) is as smart as America?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.…

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/13/2016 at 19:49

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It’s close to the national average.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:50

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I know, I was using the opportunity to link a tvtropes page.

The frumious Bandersnatch! > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 19:57

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Switzerland! - send me all your moneys!

Tekamul > For Sweden 02/13/2016 at 20:00

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Ha! Burned again by your irrational distaste for the Green Mountain state again. High graduation rates, nationally recognized exceptional public schools, and lowest participation in organized religion by state in the US. And we’re pushing in our 3rd president in another 9 months. Bask in the glory!

For Sweden > Tekamul 02/13/2016 at 20:05

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Easy HS curriculum

No Ivy-League campus

Only sent people to the White House after previous occupant died.

Confederacy of the North

for Michigan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 20:25

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Top 10

1. Massachusetts (Norway)

2. Virginia (Switzerland)

3. Colorado (Netherlands)

4. Connecticut (USA)

5. New Jersey (Canada)

6. Maryland (Ireland)

7. Vermont (Sweden)

8. Washington (Hong Kong)

9. Minnesota (Austria)

10. Rhode Island (Luxembourg)

Note: US 10 is equivalent to UN 21.

Tekamul > For Sweden 02/13/2016 at 20:34

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Did you miss the nationally recognized part? The curriculum is rigorous. And what would ivy league presence have to do with ranking high school graduates. And you pulled out the same tired, disingenuous argument that was disproven last time.

I can understand how the parameters confused you, though.

Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 20:37

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Nope, this whole thing is BS.

I did some digging and found that it comes from this larger info-graphic.

For some reason, this map compares US graduation rates to the Human Development Index , not the Education Index that you linked.

This effectively gives meaningless data, because while graduation rates divide the number of High School graduates over the number of people who should have graduated, the HDI counts the...

-Life Expectancy Index

-Education Index

-Income Index

...and (according to wikipedia) mashes them all up like this...

1. Life Expectancy Index (LEI)

LEI is 1 when Life expectancy at birth is 85 and 0 when Life expectancy at birth is 20.

2. Education Index (EI)

2.1 Mean Years of Schooling Index (MYSI)

[7]

Fifteen is the projected maximum of this indicator for 2025.

2.2 Expected Years of Schooling Index (EYSI)

[8]

Eighteen is equivalent to achieving a master’s degree in most countries.

3. Income Index (II)

II is 1 when GNI per capita is $75,000 and 0 when GNI per capita is $100.

Finally, the HDI is the geometric mean of the previous three normalized indices:

Ignoring that graduation rates and Education Indexes aren’t comparable anyway, It really should have been painfully obvious when you posted that someplace like Mexico on the list you linked has an Education Index of around 60% while South Dakota has a Graduation Rate in the 80s. Also the fact that the US averages 5th on the Education Index list despite this map claiming a majority of the country is represented with countries ranked far lower.

So yeah...a lesson on how false information spreads on the internet with the help of pretty graphs.

Tekamul > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 02/13/2016 at 20:38

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I think you meant 125st

wiffleballtony > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/13/2016 at 20:57

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Graduation rate doesn’t necessarily relate to the quality of education you receive.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Tekamul 02/13/2016 at 21:30

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Your wrong. Sum o us can spel gud.

Two Drink Minimum > For Sweden 02/15/2016 at 08:09

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You ever been here? Vermont has its act together.